Subject: Future of the Printed Press - comments welcome From: Monique van Dusseldorp Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:25:38 +0200
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Subject: Future of the Printed Press - comments welcome From: Monique van Dusseldorp Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 13:25:38 +0200
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Dear Colleagues,

The European Journalism Centre would like to receive comments on the
report "The Future of the Printed Press", which I wrote on the request
of the EJC and the European Commission. 

This report and additional comments taken from the various contributions
will form the basis of a round table disscussion on 24/25 September. The
aim is to inform the European Parliament and the European Commission of
the industry's views about the future development of online publishing,
and possible policies in this field.

You will find an online copy of the report "The Future of the Printed
Press" at http://www.ejc.nl/hp/fpp/contents.html. 

The report may also be downloaded and a printed copy can be requested
from the European Journalism Centre (+31 42 325 4030, ejc@bart.nl). Your
contribution would become a part of the online debate at
http://www.ejc.nl/hp/fpp/forum.html 

The debate is not moderated by me, but by French journalist Ana Neves.
Please find her contact details below. Any comments you may have on the
report can be sent directly mailto:a.d.n@bigfoot.com - or to me and I
make sure they will be forwarded.

Kind regards,

Monique van Dusseldorp



anA Neves
ADN New Media
82, rue Pixerecourt			Tel: (33 1) 46.36.38.79
75020 Paris, France	

Steve Outing wrote:
> 
> --------> This message was posted to the ONLINE-NEWSPAPERS list. <--------
> 
> Monthly note -- Online-Newspapers mailing list -- August 1998
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> This monthly note to Online-Newspapers subscribers is meant as an
> introduction to new subscribers, a reminder for old-timers, a statement of
> list policies, and an update on list administrative matters.
> 
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> The Online-Newspapers list is made possible by:
> 
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> 
> ** PARDON THE DUPLICATION **
> If you also are subscribed to the Online-News list, please pardon this
> monthly administrative note, much of which duplicates what is sent to
> Online-News subscribers.
> 
> NEWS
> ----
> Oops! I forgot to send this out at the beginning of the month. I send
> out these monthly messages as a reminder of list policies and procedures.
> It's a good idea to file this away for future reference should you have
> list questions.
> 
> A word about our sponsors:
> --------------------------
> The Online-Newspapers forum, Web discussion archive and related services
> survive because of the support of corporate sponsors. I'd like to take
> this opportunity to thank the sponsors for this year. A couple of
> companies -- Tribune Interactive and PR Newswire -- were kind enough to
> sponsor Online-News/Online-Newspapers for several months this year, but
> their runs as sponsors are winding down.
> 
> For the later months of this year, I could use additional sponsors. If
> you're interested, please contact Steve Outing at steve@planetarynews.com
> or tel. 303-543-7810.
> 
> EVERYTHING YOUR EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT ONLINE-NEWSPAPERS
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 1. About Online-Newspapers
> --------------------------
> Online-Newspapers is a discussion list dealing primarily with the transition
> of the newspaper industry into the online world. It is a restricted list
> for newspaper industry professionals, academics and researchers.
> 
> Online-Newspapers is NOT a general journalism discussion list. Nor is it a
> place to disseminate general-interest news tips to newspaper journalists.
> 
> 2. How to send messages to Online-Newspapers
> --------------------------------------------
> Send to online-newspapers@planetarynews.com ; this will send your message to
> all list subscribers around the world.
> 
> 3. When you have trouble
> ------------------------
> First, check your list account at
> http://www.planetarynews.com/online-newspapers
> Many problems are the result of users not receiving mail because the
> address that the list has recorded is different from the one that the
> list member is using. For example, if the list will not accept your
> submissions, it probably is because the address you are attempting to
> post from and the address the list software has recorded for you do not
> match up. In this case, change your address in your list Settings.
> 
> For other troubles, first contact your local site administrator, who
> should be able to help you. If that fails, then contact the list owner,
> Steve Outing, at steve@planetarynews.com (or
> online-newspapers-owner@planetarynews.com).
> 
> 4. How to unsubscribe
> ---------------------
> If you ever want to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message to
> lyris@planetarynews.com and type "unsubscribe online-newspapers" in the
> body of the message. (Alternatively, you can unsubscribe via the list's
> Web interface at http://www.planetarynews.com/online-newspapers )
> 
> 5. How to subscribe
> -------------------
> If you unsubscribe and later want to sign up again, send a message to
> steve@planetarynews.com and ask to be reinstated. There is no way to be
> automatically subscribed, because the list owner (Steve Outing) controls
> who gets on the list.
> 
> 6. How to stop mail when on vacation
> ------------------------------------
> Visit the list Web interface at
> http://www.planetarynews.com/online-newspapers
> Log in with your e-mail address, and click on "Your Settings." On the
> resulting form, look for the "Status" entry, and select "No Mail" from
> the pop-up menu. Then click "Save Settings" at the bottom of the page.
> When you return from vacation, repeat the procedure and change your
> Status entry to enable mail delivery of list messages again.
> 
> 7. Can I read this list in digest format?
> -----------------------------------------
> Yes, you can instruct the list software to send you either 1) individual
> messages as they are posted to the list; 2) a daily Digest message,
> containing all the messages posted to the list that day; or 3) a daily
> Index message, which contains only the Subject line and first line of
> text of messages posted to the list each day. (With the Index option,
> you can send an e-mail message to the list software instructing it to
> send you full text of messages that you would like to see.)
> 
> To set your list delivery options, go to the list Web site --
> http://www.planetarynews.com/online-newspapers -- and click on the "Your
> Settings" button. Then choose the delivery option you want from the
> "Status" field, and click "Save settings" at the bottom of the form.
> 
> 8. How can I find archives of list discussion?
> ----------------------------------------------
> An archive of Online-Newspapers discussion is available from December
> 1997 onward (the point at which the list began using Lyris software).
> To see the searchable list archive, visit the list Web site at
> http://www.planetarynews.com/online-newspapers and log in with your
> e-mail address. Look for the "Read messages" button.
> 
> 9. Can I read Online-Newspapers as a newsgroup?
> -----------------------------------------------
> You can read Online-Newspapers in newsgroup format if you have a client
> application that supports secure newsgroups. (Most modern Web browsers'
> newsreader features support this.) Here's the address:
> news://clio.lyris.net/online-newspapers
> 
> Note: You can participate in Online-Newspapers from the newsgroup version
> of the list -- but you MUST be a list member in order to post to the list.
> If you want to read Online-Newspapers as a newsgroup, then change your list
> settings so that you do not receive list mail. (Go to the list Web page at
> http://www.planetarynews.com/online-newspapers and log in with your e-mail
> address. Then click "Your Settings" and look for the "Status" field. Change
> the pop-up menu option to "No Mail," then click the "Save Changes" button
> at the bottom of the form.)
> 
> 10. Can I get a list of subscribers to the list?
> ------------------------------------------------
> No. This feature has been disabled, as an anti-spam measure. Only the list
> administrator can see the full list of Online-Newspapers subscribers.
> 
> 11. This is an unmoderated list
> -------------------------------
> Messages sent to online-newspapers@planetarynews.com do not go through a
> human editor. The list software automatically disseminates your message to
> all list subscribers throughout the world.
> 
> 12. List netiquette
> -------------------
> Because this is an unmoderated list, you are responsible for what you post to
> the list. Please take care in choosing your words, keeping in mind that you
> are sending your thoughts to hundreds of people -- all of them colleagues
> in your profession. Here are some guidelines:
> * Please keep flames off the list; send them privately, if you must.
> * If you are quoting someone else's words, credit them. But please be careful
>   to make sure you are attributing excerpts of a message to the correct
>   person. A frequent error is for a previous message to be attributed to
>   someone else who contributed to the thread earlier.
> * Keep your messages short to conserve bandwidth. (They're more likely to be
>   read by other list subscribers if you do.)
> * Don't quote an entire message, only to add a "Me too!" note on the end. The
>   best technique is to quote only small portions of messages you are
>   responding to -- just enough to make the context of your reply understood.
> * Stay on the topic. This is the most important rule of netiquette for this
>   list. General journalism topics and messages unrelated to online publishing
>   are not fair game. The list will be most useful to you as a resource if
>   everyone sticks to the agreed-upon topic.
> * Use a descriptive subject line.  Many people decide whether they want
>   to read a message based on the content of the subject line.
> * If a thread changes topic mid-stream, change the subject line to fit the
>   new topic. (e.g., "Re: Delphi and MCI (was Re: Murdoch rumor)")
> * Sign all your messages. You are more likely to get people to listen to your
>   message if they can associate a name with the words. Many return email
>   addresses do not indicate who you are (e.g., 71112@compuserve.com), so
>   please remember to sign your name -- and, preferably, professional
>   affiliation -- at the end of your message.
> * Be tolerant of newcomers who make mistakes. We were all new to this medium
>   once.
> * Remember, there are real people at the other end of this mailing list.
>   Please be respectful in your public communications with the members of
>   this list.
> 
> 13. Respect copyright
> ---------------------
> Please do not distribute copyrighted information to the Online-Newspapers
> list. Sending the full text of a New York Times article about online
> newspapers, for example, is not acceptable and is a violation of the Times'
> copyright. It is acceptable to send excerpts of that article to the list,
> under "fair use." Repeated violation of this restriction is one of the few
> things that will get you banned from participating in this list.
> 
> 14. Press releases
> ------------------
> Posting press releases to the list is appropriate in certain instances, such
> as to announce a new product or service that is relevant to the topic of the
> list. Press releases about unrelated products will not be tolerated. Post
> press releases with moderation. For example, a weekly press release about the
> latest content of an online news service is going too far; once a month
> *might* be acceptable. (List members, rather than the list owner, are likely
> to tell you if you've crossed the line!)
> 
> 15.  Posting policy/guidelines
> ------------------------------
> Please be aware that your messages posted to the Online-Newspapers list are
> archived by the list owner. Subscribers to Online-Newspapers agree to allow
> Planetary News and Steve Outing to archive their posts to the list with
> no expectation of financial or other compensation by Planetary News.
> Acceptance of this condition is a requirement of participation in the
> Online-Newspapers list. If this is not acceptable, THEN DO NOT POST MESSAGES
> TO THIS LIST.
> 
> 16. Does the list accept automated commands?
> --------------------------------------------
> Yes. Lyris mailing list software recognizes most list commands that you
> may be used to from other list software (such as ListServ, Majordomo,
> etc.). For instructions on e-mail commands recognized by this list, see
> http://www.lyris.com/help/LyrisEmailCommands.html
> 
> (Remember, most of your interaction with the list software can be
> conducted via the list's Web site, which is at
> http://www.planetarynews.com/online-newspapers . There's no need to
> issue e-mail commands unless you want to.)
> 
> 17. Who makes Online-Newspapers possible?
> -----------------------------------------
> Online-News is maintained by Steve Outing, president of Planetary News,
> an online publishing and interactive media research and consulting firm
> located in Boulder, Colorado, USA. Steve is also a columnist for Editor &
> Publisher Interactive who writes Stop The Presses!, which covers the
> interactive media business. (It can be found at
> http://www.mediainfo.com/ephome/news/newshtm/stop/stop.htm ) And he is
> co-founder of ClearGate Communications (http://www.clearmail.com) and
> The Content Exchange (coming soon).
> 
> The list is hosted on the servers of The Shelby Group of Oakland,
> California, developers of Lyris mailing list software, which is used for
> this discussion list. Information about Lyris can be found at
> http://www.lyris.com
> 
> You may occasionally see promotional announcements about Lyris on the
> Online-Newspapers list and Web sites.
> 
> 18.  Statistics for Online-Newspapers
> -------------------------------------
> Number of subscribers (includes gateways)...........502*
> 
> * There's no way to know how many people actually read this list. Many
> subscribing addresses are gateways to multiple recipients at corporate and
> educational LANs.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Steve Outing                                   Planetary News
> steve@planetarynews.com                        Boulder, Colorado, USA
> Owner: Online-News, Online-Writing             voice: 303-543-7810
> and Online-Newspapers lists                    fax: 303-543-1059
>            Read my Stop The Presses! column on E&P Interactive:
> ------- http://www.mediainfo.com/ephome/news/newshtm/stop/stop.htm -------
> (( e-mail column reminders: http://www.planetarynews.com/stopthepresses ))
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Van Dusseldorp & Partners
European Internet Strategies

http://www.europemedia.com

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