Subject: Re: New beginings From: robyn jamison Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 22:57:49 -0500
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Subject: Re: New beginings From: robyn jamison Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 22:57:49 -0500
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Hi!
What is the language I'm speaking? Honesty.
To whom? Committed adults.
For what? Self expression and unstoppable possibility.

Everyone - When I first entered this consortium, I perceived it as a sacred space.

No longer. I've been assuming we would continue the email group, but it seems like
ever since Vip wrote that irritating (literally) message, most of the messages
have shown up (not necessarily BEEN)  like reactions and stabs at distinguishing
"what's wrong" or fixing something, and frankly, it's just no fun. Now I wonder if
we should bother. The number of people who are regularly participating is
dwindling. Even some of the most powerful and insightful messages have been tinged
with overt or covert attacks or at least arguments with something else that has
been said. Then more arguments.
Seems to me we're not just speaking the language of "I" but have become downright
psychological. (OH NO! Not THAT!)

Ina may be on to something having to do with approaching completion...don't
know...still another stab at figuring out what's gone wrong and fixing it.

I think the worst part of this is that most of the nattering is going on under the
guise of transformational talk - maybe we should just have an open clearing
session or some kind of fight and duke it out on-line and clear the air. I'm tired
of all the voting.

Even the beautiful, insightful, poetic, ecstatic communications are getting
swallowed up by the atmosphere of ... is it resignation? what?

I'm of the belief that before something can shift, the current condition must be
distinguished.

Thanks for the space to speak.

Love,
Robyn
InaRuth@aol.com wrote:

> Brian-
>
> Good to hear from you.  Hope your course prep is going well.  The first
> weekend of the new course literally stood on the shoulders of our course.  It
> was truly amazing.  Also amusing to watch the participants struggle with
> getting the homework "right".
>
> I must have missed the infusion of the conversation for 2020, but I am grossly
> unfamiliar with it not being a part of a leader body any more.  It came out
> after I'd left the leader body.
>
> I'm excited about this new course.  I've fairly decided that it is much more
> appropriate to start a new e-mail list for the new group.  We'd be doing more
> like taking them to Mars than Paris.
>
> We do need to look at - as a group - the continuance or discontinuance of this
> email group.  I'm open to both, but would prefer continuance.  We need to
> shift back into exploring the distinctions of partnership.  We get sidetracked
> a lot.
>
> One of the things I teach is group communication.  What we've done over this
> year is typical group behavior.  Always going from "norming" back to
> "storming".  I suspect a few groundrules (as suggested by Seth and Andrew)
> wouldn't be a bad idea.
>
> love,
> i



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Hi!

What is the language I'm speaking? Honesty.
To whom? Committed adults.
For what? Self expression and unstoppable possibility.

Everyone - When I first entered this consortium, I perceived it as a sacred space.

No longer. I've been assuming we would continue the email group, but it seems like ever since Vip wrote that irritating (literally) message, most of the messages have shown up (not necessarily BEEN)  like reactions and stabs at distinguishing "what's wrong" or fixing something, and frankly, it's just no fun. Now I wonder if we should bother. The number of people who are regularly participating is dwindling. Even some of the most powerful and insightful messages have been tinged with overt or covert attacks or at least arguments with something else that has been said. Then more arguments.
Seems to me we're not just speaking the language of "I" but have become downright psychological. (OH NO! Not THAT!)

Ina may be on to something having to do with approaching completion...don't know...still another stab at figuring out what's gone wrong and fixing it.

I think the worst part of this is that most of the nattering is going on under the guise of transformational talk - maybe we should just have an open clearing session or some kind of fight and duke it out on-line and clear the air. I'm tired of all the voting.

Even the beautiful, insightful, poetic, ecstatic communications are getting swallowed up by the atmosphere of ... is it resignation? what?

I'm of the belief that before something can shift, the current condition must be distinguished.

Thanks for the space to speak.

Love,
Robyn
InaRuth@aol.com wrote:

Brian-

Good to hear from you.  Hope your course prep is going well.  The first
weekend of the new course literally stood on the shoulders of our course.  It
was truly amazing.  Also amusing to watch the participants struggle with
getting the homework "right".

I must have missed the infusion of the conversation for 2020, but I am grossly
unfamiliar with it not being a part of a leader body any more.  It came out
after I'd left the leader body.

I'm excited about this new course.  I've fairly decided that it is much more
appropriate to start a new e-mail list for the new group.  We'd be doing more
like taking them to Mars than Paris.

We do need to look at - as a group - the continuance or discontinuance of this
email group.  I'm open to both, but would prefer continuance.  We need to
shift back into exploring the distinctions of partnership.  We get sidetracked
a lot.

One of the things I teach is group communication.  What we've done over this
year is typical group behavior.  Always going from "norming" back to
"storming".  I suspect a few groundrules (as suggested by Seth and Andrew)
wouldn't be a bad idea.

love,
i

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