>Robyn writes:
>
><longer. >>
>
>The email consortium is a sacred space.
>This is not something that has changed.
>It is also not something that could change.
>
>And later writes:
>
><completion...don't know...still another stab at figuring out what's gone
>wrong and fixing it. I think the worst part of this is that most of the
>nattering is going on under the guise of transformational talk - maybe we
>should just have an open clearing session or some kind of fight and duke it
>out on-line and clear the air. I'm tired of all the voting. Even the
>beautiful, insightful, poetic, ecstatic communications are getting
swallowed
>up by the atmosphere of ... is it resignation? what? I'm of the belief that
>before something can shift, the current condition must be distinguished. >>
>
>Voting is a useful process that has served democracy since its inception.
>What would you rather?
>Would you prefer a dictatorship of the mild-mannered?
>Some of us are unruly and we like to be that way.
>The alternative isn't better accept by agreement.
>How are we going to get clear on what we can agree about?
>
>We are stepping into an area where THERE ARE NO RULES.
>In fact we're stepping into an area where THERE IS NO ANYTHING.
>There is nothing already established here to determine what is and isn't
>acceptable.
>
>Except we've said that its a domain where I am empowered by everything you
>do and say.
>And I empower you with everything I do and say.
>And I am empowered by empowering you.
>
>I would suggest that what is occuring here IS THE RESULT OF THE COURSE!!!
>This is what we came here to get!!!
>
>I know its hard to believe.
>"I did not pay $2000 to be insulted by Vip Vyas and then have a public
>debate about it." etc etc.
>But try it on for a second.
>
>After almost a year of working on this,
>can we begin to hear something in the background of EVERYTHING
>that is being said here?
>
>Can we begin to hear in the background the creation of something
implausible
>and unlikely?
>Something hardly there at all?
>
>Somewhere in the background of our unfolding process,
>something has been quietly developing by itself
>without us paying it any attention.
>
>It is the field inside of which our conversation is occuring.
>What field is THIS conversation occuring inside of????
>
>Our conversation has run away with itself.
>And we focus on its content.
>But all the while in the background something else is occuring.
>Lets stop to look.
>
>In the back row of our conversational audience there is a small child
>smiling to herself.
>
>I have a feeling I already shared this, but I love it so much I'm going to
>do it again.
>Brian Regnier used to tell a story about how people come into courses with
>expectations about the outcome.
>They have projects in there lives, like they want to have more geese in
>their life... more whatever.
>They do the course and go back to work and don't have any more geese than
>they did before.
>And they almost don't notice the radical shift that has occured.
>They don't notice that on every street corner, now, there is a chicken that
>wasn't there before.
>In fact there are chickens everywhere. There's chicken's in their car.
>Chickens at home.
>Chickens when they go for a walk. Chickens everywhere.
>
>But we thought what we were going to get was geese. Where are the geese?
>
>Could it be that the conversation we are having here... THIS ONE ... this
>mean, insulting, heartfelt,
>sincere, ironic, magical, superficial, engaging, boring, easy, hard,
>frustrating, satisfying,
>almost-there-but-not-quite-conversation....
>
>Could it be that THIS CONVERSATION ... IS AN EXPRESSION OF A 5TH FIELD?
>
>(No. Absolutely not. But you've got to give me some points for trying. xxx)
>
>Love,
>Andrew.
>
>
>



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