Subject: RE: Web Count From: R Ballard Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:33:25 -0400 (EDT)
How the Web Was Won
Subject: RE: Web Count From: R Ballard Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 12:33:25 -0400 (EDT)
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On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, Don Taylor wrote:

> Hey, Rex. Help me get a better understanding of some of these numbers so I
> can get them in perspective.
> 
> At 09:22 PM 4/5/95 -0400, R Ballard wrote:
> >
> >There are about 36 million internet users, most of whom have web 
> >capability of some form (Mosaic, Webster, Cello, NetScape...).

> I haven't heard that many (36 million) Internet users before. Where'd you
> find that?
I did a Wais search on DowVision (http://dowvision.wais.net) it was part
of a current market survey.  It was 10 million back in December.

> >NetScape is estimating about 3 million based on the users that "ding" 
> >their home-page when they log in.  This is probably the tip of the 
> >iceburg since many users define their own home-pages.
> I never ding their page - I always load my bookmark file. I wonder if their
> "estimate" includes that factor?
Actually, no.  That's part of the problem.  How to you count the "Anonymous"

> >Don't forget that 2 million Prodigy users, and several thousand AOL users 
> >are ALSO Web capable.  There are about 10 million internet host IDs, 
> >which front for an average of 20 users (TIA, Pink-Slip, Fire-walls, and 
> >application level SLIP.)  Don't forget shared logins and shared hosts 
> >(multi-user systems like UNIX and VMS) which can run X11 clients.
> Where are the AOL users from - beta testers of the new AOL interface?
Actually, AOL users can FTP download everything they need to hook up
through local boards.  They can get trumpet (4 minutes), netscape for
windows, and a list of bbs connections from alt.bbs.internet

> Where did you ever find an average of 20 users per host ID?
Another one of those Dow Jones searches (October 1994).


> I think the original question was where to find some web stats. I just found
> a place today called Browser Watch that has some user stats and connections
> to other sites with similar info.
The best source is to see how many connections come into the popular web 
servers.  Some of the web servers are not packing user identification 
information.  Thanks to TIA, Pink-Slip, and Fire-Walls, one host can be
several hundred hosts.  The new Netscape servers are also keeping more 
detailed statistics.

>     http://www.ski.mskcc.org/browserwatch/index.html
> 
> and there is the web servers by domain at http://www.nw.com.
> 
> Doc
	Rex


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