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On Sun, 17 Dec 1995, JOSEPH SHEPPARD wrote:

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>   >From: carol2180@aol.com (Carol2180)
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> CN>I would also like to ask if anyone is also willing to let us know how many
>   >hours that they "assisted" (volunteered) at no pay for   Landmark after
>   >doing the Forum (Landmark is a FOR PROFIT organization -- it's not usual
>   >that people work for nothing for a FOR PROFIT organization is it?)  I know
>   >I spent many, many dollars on my own participation, on paying for my
>   >children and other family members to do the program, volunteering -- and
>   >especially volunteering full time for The Hunger Proejct.

I indicated before that I put in about 2000 hours/year for 2 years, and 
put in about 1000 hours/year for 1 year.  I have always received value 
that impacted almost every area of my life.  The great thing about 
assisting at Landmark is that it is OK to make mistakes, even to fail.  
At the same time, structures are set up to have you win.

> I've never taken The Forum, but I did take the est training in 1980.
> I assisted for a few years, including heading up a "Phone Team" of
> volunteers who called other graduates to invite them in enroll in
> graduate seminars.

Want to get trained in Leadership Skills, this is an excellent way to get 
trained in managing, motivating, and organizing a moderate size 
organization.  I know one woman who is ultimately responsible for an 
organization of 650 assistants.  She is a moderate Republican and is 
looking to be a speaker and campaign organizer.

> In some profit organizations, it is common to use volunteers.  In
> radio, for example, they use students called "Interns" who perform
> various tasks and are not paid.  They do it for the educational
> benefits and to make contacts.

It is also a nice way to get practice "in the field".  The training at 
Landmark is easily translated to running a business.  In fact, Landmark 
licences the same technology to Executive and Management Consulting firms 
which charge substantially more - often a contingency fee.

> When I was assisting at est, I had an agreement that I would get more
> out of it than I put into it.  I kept that agreement, and I use
> techniques I learned fifteen years ago at est today in my business.  I
> learned a lot about how to deal with people, and how to inspire them
> to produce results.  I know that I have been able to make a lot of
> money using the techniques, so I don't feel that I was taken advantage
> of back when I was volunteering.

That agreement is still standard.  In addition, we are supposed th have 
"a raucous good time" in the process.  Assisting can be lot's of fun.
I see it as "Barter".  In exchange for contributing my time, I get access 
to personal coaches (including corporate presidents) on how to optimize 
my effectiveness.


	Rex Ballard
	Standard & Poor's/McGraw-Hill
	Opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect
	the Management of the McGraw-Hill Companies.




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