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On Fri, 5 Jan 1996 JoinTMI@aol.com wrote:

> Rex Ballard  wrote:
> 
> >Abortion rights for women implies that the woman is exclusively accountable
> for the choice, the responsibilities, and the consequences of her choice to
> have a child.  This is the cornerstone from which the "punitive child-support
> with denied visitation" can be attacked.
> 
> Yes. "Reproduction without represention is tyranny!"

Actually, we are talking about taxation without representation.  The 
estranged father, once he falls behind on child support, is forced to pay 
child support through DYFSS, to reemburse them for welfare benefits paid 
during the delinquency.  Once the father is "paid up", he must continue 
to pay "DYFSS" who will hold the funds "in escrow" (my term not theirs) 
in case he skips town.

I'm not sure what happens if the "Dead Beat Dad" pays the full amount 
into DYFSS and the full amount hasn't been paid out to the mother/children.
Does anybody else know?  Sounds a bit like a special "sin tax" to me.

> >The only way a man can reliably choose NOT to bear children is to have a
> vasectomy.  
> 
> They have been known to "fail," too.

When I had mine done, while the doctor was clipping the tubes I jokingly 
told him I wanted an "Insurance policy for $40"  he asked why.  I told 
him that "If the odds of conception are 4000 to 1 and my child support is 
$160,000 over 22 years I want to make sure some besides me has to pay it".

The doctor cut an additional 1/2 inch, cauterized the tubes, stitched 
them shut, and stapled them to the bone.  I still get an annoying little 
"tug" every now and then, just to remind me that I'm never going to have 
to pay some woman for a "wild night of entrapment".

Ironically, two days after the vasectomy was confirmed to be effective, I 
got a call from an old girl-friend.  She wanted to see me.  She came to 
my place and got very amourous.  I told her I was "fixed" and she 
suddenly lost interest.  Four weeks later, I heard she was pregnant - I 
could have been paying another $600/month in child-support.

With 5 different women, I have had very hot, amourous dates, only to 
throw ice-water on it when they discovered I was "fixed".  Two got 
pregnant within 5-6 weeks, one had a miscarriage, and one got engaged 
within 2 months of our date.  The last one just "left town".  Just think 
of all the "Fun" I missed by getting that vasectomy.

Maybe I shouldn't tell them until AFTER they try to convince me that "I'm 
gonna be a papa" :-),

> -Robert

	Rex Ballard - Director of Electronic Distribution
	http://cnj.digex.net/~rballard



From rballard@cnj.digex.net Wed Jan 10 03:00:46 1996