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Yes, you may use this in your "horror stories" segment.
If you like, I can give you details (names, dates, places...)
but the general information is sufficient.

	Rex Ballard - Director of Electronic Distribution
	Standard & Poor's/McGraw-Hill
	Opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect
	the Management of the McGraw-Hill Companies.
	http://cnj.digex.net/~rballard


On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, fathers wrote:

> Jeez, Rex,
> 
> Thanks for the horror story.  Looks like I have been out of circulation 
> long enough to not know this is the point we have gotten to, but long 
> enough to avoid this scenario.
> 
> Could I use this in the "One Page Stories" posted on 
> 
> http://idt.liberty.com/~fathers9
> 
> It would be a great addition.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, Rex Ballard wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 5 Jan 1996 JoinTMI@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > > Rex Ballard  wrote:
> > > 
> > > >Abortion rights for women implies that the woman is exclusively accountable
> > > for the choice, the responsibilities, and the consequences of her choice to
> > > have a child.  This is the cornerstone from which the "punitive child-support
> > > with denied visitation" can be attacked.
> > > 
> > > Yes. "Reproduction without represention is tyranny!"
> > 
> > Actually, we are talking about taxation without representation.  The 
> > estranged father, once he falls behind on child support, is forced to pay 
> > child support through DYFSS, to reemburse them for welfare benefits paid 
> > during the delinquency.  Once the father is "paid up", he must continue 
> > to pay "DYFSS" who will hold the funds "in escrow" (my term not theirs) 
> > in case he skips town.
> > 
> > I'm not sure what happens if the "Dead Beat Dad" pays the full amount 
> > into DYFSS and the full amount hasn't been paid out to the mother/children.
> > Does anybody else know?  Sounds a bit like a special "sin tax" to me.
> > 
> > > >The only way a man can reliably choose NOT to bear children is to have a
> > > vasectomy.  
> > > 
> > > They have been known to "fail," too.
> > 
> > When I had mine done, while the doctor was clipping the tubes I jokingly 
> > told him I wanted an "Insurance policy for $40"  he asked why.  I told 
> > him that "If the odds of conception are 4000 to 1 and my child support is 
> > $160,000 over 22 years I want to make sure some besides me has to pay it".
> > 
> > The doctor cut an additional 1/2 inch, cauterized the tubes, stitched 
> > them shut, and stapled them to the bone.  I still get an annoying little 
> > "tug" every now and then, just to remind me that I'm never going to have 
> > to pay some woman for a "wild night of entrapment".
> > 
> > Ironically, two days after the vasectomy was confirmed to be effective, I 
> > got a call from an old girl-friend.  She wanted to see me.  She came to 
> > my place and got very amourous.  I told her I was "fixed" and she 
> > suddenly lost interest.  Four weeks later, I heard she was pregnant - I 
> > could have been paying another $600/month in child-support.
> > 
> > With 5 different women, I have had very hot, amourous dates, only to 
> > throw ice-water on it when they discovered I was "fixed".  Two got 
> > pregnant within 5-6 weeks, one had a miscarriage, and one got engaged 
> > within 2 months of our date.  The last one just "left town".  Just think 
> > of all the "Fun" I missed by getting that vasectomy.
> > 
> > Maybe I shouldn't tell them until AFTER they try to convince me that "I'm 
> > gonna be a papa" :-),
> > 
> > > -Robert
> > 
> > 	Rex Ballard - Director of Electronic Distribution
> > 	http://cnj.digex.net/~rballard
> > 
> > 
> 

From rballard@cnj.digex.net Tue Jan 16 17:55:32 1996