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	Rex Ballard - Director of Electronic Distribution
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On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, bright wrote:
> Rex Ballard wrote:
> > > stevldge@bright.net wrote:
> > > >There is only one thing needs to be said.
> > > >
> > > > There are those who pay, and there are those who recieve.
> > > >Which would you rather do? duh! Child support is nothing
> > > >but a damn lottery. Wish I could get pregnant.
> > >
> > > I wish you could too, cause you would get a real wake-up call real
> > > quick.
> > 
> 
> > There's a real ugly suprise for both parties isn't there.  When you 
> >were talking 20%, you didn't realize that your taxes would be going up 
> >10-20%, that you would now have to pay two rent bills, two utility 
> >bills, two car bills, and pay for two meal preparations every day.
> > If two can live as cheaply as one, and a third is only a little more, 
> >how come the NCP gets to pay for Lion's share of both households?
> > 
> > There are some solutions for CPs:
> > 
> >Get a job (the most strategic time for a divorce is just before the
> >youngest starts school, this way you get maximum child support, maximum
> >day-care, and you're income can be minimum wage for 10 hours/week, 
> >after the decree, the kids start school, you can find some stud on 
> >disability who will "sit for sex", and pocket 100% of the income on a 
> >REAL job.
> > 
> >Get a man (the new husband's income isn't figured into the
> >child-support equation at all - talk about "Dead-Beats").
> 
> ************************************************************************
>You are SAD...  I suppose that ALL CP's are Female in your little mind 
> aren't they!  The SPOUSE'S income of the NCP as well as the CP is never 
> equaled into the CS payments...  that is fair.

For whatever reason, women don't get gouged nearly as bad as a man.  A 
man gets hit for about 20% of his gross income or 50% of his net income.
A woman often pays as little as 5% of her gross or 20% of her net.

> ************************************************************************ 
> >Get a disabled man (he has a secure disability income, can baby-sit
> >while you'e at work, and you can throw him out if he gets ugly or
> >abusive - the ultimate "Dead-Beat").
> > 
> >Warning - some of these "Sitters for Sex" are also child molesters.
> > 
> > Sleep well!
> 
> ************************************************************************
> You're implamations that disabled individuals are good to our society 
> for Substatue parents, Baby Sitters, Abusive Relations, Sex Objects, Sex 
> Offenders, Dead Beats and a base for Free Income for CP's who get no 
> support from the NCP is derived from where?!?!?  You should be 
> completely ashamed of your-self, but I highly doubt that you are.

My ex is married to a nice disabled dead-beat.  He had a math degree when 
they got married, he has been going to college for his B.A. for 5 years 
(using my day-care money to do it).

This was just a nice way of supplementing the child support.  I agreed to 
pay $300/month for day-care in addition to the child support so that she 
could work.  She decided to go to college instead of go to work, she 
decided to "Pay" her husband instead of putting them in licenced 
day-care.  And I couldn't report my payments to him because it would 
"mess up his disability".  She injured her shoulder and started 
collecting workman's comp and SSI disability.  They are both on medicaid 
but I pay $500/month for HMO insurance for the kids.

> This Male VS Female attitude is purely juvenile and is predominat in 
> most of the articles posted here.  

> The Childs Welfare is the subject, not sexuality, gender or which parent 
> grosses the largest income.

The goverment has a highly vested interest in making sure that the person 
who gets the largest income does not get the children.  The higher income 
can be taxed at the single rate.  The higher income will result in higher 
child support.  If "Social Services" gets into the picture, they can 
pocket a substantial percentage for "collection fees" and "escrow".  They 
pay the mother the same amount they would pay under AFDC but the father 
can pay 2 or 3 times that amount.

> There tremendous numbers of NCPs who are 
> OVER CHARGED and/or kept from their children those CPs do not care,
The current laws ENCOURAGE this type of alienation.  The less the father 
sees the kids, the more he has to pay.  The CP has to be much more 
careful about how she raises the kid if the NCP is breathing fire, just 
waiting for a hint of abuse than can be substantiated to the authorities.

The law pits parent against parent, turns the children into pawns, and 
then collects as much as 3 times revenue that it would from parents who 
remarry.  This system penalizes remarriage of the NCP and rewards 
irresponsible marriages of the CP.  The CP loses notheing if she 
remarries.  The NCP gets no reduction if he marries a woman with children.

> or there would be alot of re-assessments made,

> But, there are the NCPs hwo 
> do not pay a dime or even want to be reminded of the child...

Children conceived by:  prostitutes?  women taking birth control pills 
along with their cocaine?  Women who pick a nice responsible guy for a 
"one night stand" that gets him nailed for 20 years?  Women who milk the 
condom and inseminate themselves when they take the condom to the 
bathroom?  Women who have learned to tighten their vaginal muscles in 
such a way that the condom breaks without being felt?

>  This is a  dead-beat!

The man who begs his lover to have his child, brags to the whole 
neighborhood that he's a "real man" now that he's a poppa, and then 
dissappears from the face of the earth to convince another woman to have 
his baby - THAT'S a dead-beat!

The 5 guys who went to bed with this woman, and 15 others without using a 
condom and just "got lucky" in the baby lottery.  THOSE are DEAD-BEATS.

The guy who rapes a woman when she's 15 or 16 and leaves a woman with 
emotional scars that must be endured by her emotionally castrated 
subsequent husband.  HE is a DEAD-BEAT!

> A CP who will any excuse not work or go back to school and 
> uses the chil(ren) as a crutch for their defecit is a dead-beat!  

How about the step-father or boyfriend trades "sitting for sex, room, and 
board" paid for by the NCP?  How about the "step-daddy" who uses the 
child-support to supplement his 6 figure income while the NCP lives in a 
"room" in a "slum".

> Leave your delusions at the door.   

All it is is delusions isn't it?  When the judge hears the case, there 
are all those little tidbits of information you aren't allowed to present 
that would be mitigating and aggrevating circumstances in a criminal 
trial.  The judge just assumes that he knows everything there is to know 
about the entire marriage, and ruins the lives of 3 or more people for 20 
or more years.

What's really great is that men are being arrested, jailed, and even 
killed, for not fulfilling a contract which isn't being honored, 
based on a hearing that violated the constituion AND the Bill of Rights, 
and then.

Let's face it.  It's much more "profitable" to go after "Nice Guys" who 
make "Good Money" and force them to pay through the "Social Services 
funnel" than to go after the REAL Deadbeats.

I was a virgin until I was 21.
I was faithful to my wife for the duration of the relationship.
She remarried within two weeks of the divorce (I caught the garter in my 
folded arms).
She wanted $400/month.  The Judge demanded $500 plus $600 in 
miscellanious benefits.
I am paid in full (I pay $700 + $500 in benefits).
I also pay an extra 10% in taxes.
At my ex's request - I have seen my kids for 12 hours in 3 years.  The 
order says I can see them for 48 hours every 2 weeks.

These are my REALITIES.

> ************************************************************************> > --'Mina--
> > > sent from the sands of the Chesapeake Bay
> > > http://www.cris.com/~Armina
> > Rex

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Rex


From rballard@cnj.digex.net Thu Feb 22 05:36:08 1996
Newsgroups: alt.child-support