Subject: Re: Newsgroups From: Steve Outing Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:25:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: Newsgroups From: Steve Outing Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 21:25:53 -0700
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On 8/28/96, JDLas@aol.com wrote:
>My guess (I'm no lawyer) is that there are no legal restrictions in lifting
>*short* samplings of newsgroup postings. 

Sounds right. It's more an ethical issue. Ask first, is my advice.

>(Correct me if i'm wrong, steve
>outing, but i doubt if you own the words that anyone posts to this list.)

Right. Participants in this list do receive, when they sign up, a "Welcome 
to the list" message that explains rules, netiquette, etc. In it I simply 
state that if you agree to participate in the list by posting a message, 
you give me the right to "re-publish" those words in a "permanent" archive. 
(It's on the online-news Web site at 
http://www.social.com/social/hypermail/news/index.html as well as in monthly 
compiled files that can be retrieved with an e-mail command sent to 
Majordomo.) Other than that, I have no rights to what's posted.

>But let me quickly add:  Ethically, I believe you're bound to contact anyone
>who posts a message -- even if the newsgroup is a public forum -- and get his
>or her permission. 

Agreed.

>Otherwise, it's tantamount to overhearing a conversation
>in a bus station, then quoting that person by name without asking that
>person's consent. 
>
I don't go that far. I believe when you have posted a message to a public 
list or newsgroup, you've "published" your words -- thus, you shouldn't be 
surprised if they show up elsewhere. An ethical journalist will ask for 
permission, not just for courtesy's sake but also to confirm that the 
words are indeed written by the person on the From: line of the post. 

>In my experience, I've never encountered someone who's posted  a message but
>then refused permission to have it quoted in a magazine. 
>
Sometimes people post words hastily that they later regret. (Perhaps some 
of the recent sniping about Top 10 Lists falls into this category. ;) On 
occasion you might find someone refusing permission on these grounds.

Actually, this topic has been well covered on this list (but not for a 
while). Anyone interested could search the list archive and find previous 
discussions.

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