Subject: RESULT: talk.media.*, misc.industry.media.journalism all fail From: warren@syra.net (Warren Lavallee) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:42:43 -0600
How the Web Was Won
Subject: RESULT: talk.media.*, misc.industry.media.journalism all fail
From: warren@syra.net (Warren Lavallee)
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:42:43 -0600
Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers
Message-ID:
RESULT
unmoderated group talk.media.journalism fails 93:21
unmoderated group talk.media.misc fails 87:32
unmoderated group talk.media.net-coverage fails 93:24
unmoderated group misc.industry.media.journalism fails 96:22
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
93 21 : Yes No : No : talk.media.journalism
87 32 : Yes No : No : talk.media.misc
93 24 : Yes No : No : talk.media.net-coverage
96 22 : Yes No : No : misc.industry.media.journalism
3 invalid votes
Newsgroups line:
talk.media.journalism Journalism and the news media.
talk.media.misc The mass media.
talk.media.net-coverage Feedback to media coverage of the Internet.
misc.industry.media.journalism The profession of journalism (Moderated).
This vote was being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee . For questions
about the proposed group contact Aaron Priven .
CHARTER
* misc.industry.media.journalism
misc.industry.media.journalism is proposed as a moderated discussion
group for those interested in the profession and practice of journalism.
It will be moderated to ensure that posts are relevant and of interest
to those who are working journalists.
Most subjects relevant to the journalistic profession and the
news industry would be relevant. This would include "shop
talk" by journalists, information on student journalism, and
help on how to enter the field.
However, several kinds of messages are particularly irrelevant and
are out of place:
o Media criticism
o "Important stories not being covered by the media"
o Press releases
o Discussion of current events that happen to be covered by the media
o Personal attacks and flames
o Political discussions not directly related to the profession of
journalism
Rejected articles will be made available on the Internet from
ftp.chrysopylae.com for at least one month after they are rejected.
The moderator will be Aaron Priven (aaron@chrysopylae.com and
aaronrp@best.com).
Submission address: journalism@chrysopylae.com
Contact address: journalism-request@chrysopylae.com
* talk.media.journalism
talk.media.journalism will be created as an unmoderated discussion group
for criticism of journalism and general discussion of journalism,
media, and society.
* talk.media.net-coverage
talk.media.net-coverage will be a Usenet newsgroup for discussion
of the various stories on the Internet that appear in professional
mass media: newspapers, magazines, radio broadcasts, TV reports,
and Internet forums such as World Wide Web pages for the professional
media. Members of this newsgroup are encouraged to post commentaries
and reviews on these stories, so as to give additional information
to people who have read these reports on the Net and want to learn
more. Members of the mass media will be able to receive feedback
on their reports through this newsgroup, and they will likewise
have the opportunity to alert the members of the Internet to be
prepared for upcoming reports on the Internet.
This newsgroup is not to be a forum for posting of press releases or
job applications.
This newsgroup will serve as a replacement for the current Usenet
newsgroup alt.internet.media-coverage. Thanks to news@nova.avid.com,
the original creator of alt.internet.media-coverage.
* talk.media.misc
talk.media.misc will be a general forum for discussion of the media,
generally, although not necessarily, from a social or political
perspective. Discussion of entertainment _as_ entertainment should
continue to be held in the appropriate group for the purpose (likely
under the rec.arts heirarchy).
[This collection of addresses is (C)1995 by Consultix Computer Services.
Permission is strictly NOT given to use this list or any part thereof to
make a mailing list, or for mass-mailings. Any other use is fine.]
talk.media Final Vote Ack
misc.industry.media.journalism ------+
talk.media.net-coverage -----+|
talk.media.misc ----+||
talk.media.journalism ---+|||
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aaron@chrysopylae.com Aaron Priven YY-Y
aa_adro@vega.concordia.ca Andres Adrover YYYN
adair@bigpine.csee.usf.edu Jonathan Adair NYNY
afabbro@umich.edu Andrew Fabbro ---N
agunn@pipeline.com Angela Gunn YYYY
ahm@sashimi.wwa.com Andrew H. Marrinson N-NN
AJCMARYN@aol.com Maryn McKenna YYYY
ananda@cs.utexas.edu Ananda M. Kar YYYY
andyl@harlequin.com Andy Latto YNYY
andyo@ora.com Andrew Oram YNYY
ao474@freenet.carleton.ca Janet Kegg YYYY
ault@cs.albany.edu Jim Ault YYYY
bdasun@ibl.bm Ahmed ElAmin ---Y
bfant@charm.net Bill Fant YYYY
bjv@herbison.com B.J. Herbison -Y--
BobCunning@aol.com Bob Cunningham YYYY
C.R.Gadsden@politics.hull.ac.uk Richard Gadsden YYY-
callbritton@major.cei.net Chris Allbritton YYYY
cbranson@gate.net Craig Branson YYYY
cbstone@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Christopher B. Stone NNNY
chriss@avbry.demon.co.uk Chris Stent YYYY
crookes@ucon.gun.de Philip Crookes YYYY
crouchkp@flidh101.delcoelect.com K. Crouch ----
csaamw@urc.tue.nl Michiel Wijers NNNN
dan.r@ix.netcom.com Dan Rothschild YYYY
dhartung@mcs.com Dan Hartung NYYY
dmosher@nyx10.cs.du.edu David Mosher NNYY
draziw@netcom.com Ryan YYYY
DS6537%CMSUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Don Kingston YYYY
dwillis@grove.ufl.EDU Derek Willis YYYY
efoley@usa1.com Ed Foley ---Y
egarbos@sanders.com Eric Garbos NNYN
ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Eric Huppertz YYYY
embransc@hamlet.uncg.edu Edward Branscomb YYNN
fche@elastic.org Frank Ch. Eigler YYYY
finn@netcom.com Robert Finn YYYY
FWAADV@aol.com Greg Brooks YYYY
geenius@Logical.NET Keith Ammann YYYN
gerdw@cougar.vut.edu.au David Gerard YYYY
gordon@yuki Gordon Engel NNNN
gronkin@nerdvana.com George Ronkin YYYY
horowitz@omnifest.uwm.edu Rick Horowitz YYYY
hrow@casbah.acns.nwu.edu Ewing Heath Row YYYY
illumine@gate.net Aaron Zollman -YY-
jamesh@achilles.net James Hrynyshyn YYYY
jbell@solar.rtd.utk.edu Jonathan M. Bell YYNY
jberger@lynx.dac.neu.edu Jerry Berger YYYY
jbunin@slonet.org Jerry Bunin YYYY
jcohen@DRI.cornell.edu Jeffrey David Cohen -N--
jdfalk@cais.com J.D. Falk YYYY
jfreed@nytimes.com John Freed YYYY
jim.colwell@neopc.org Jim Colwell YNNN
jimfranklin@BIX.com Jim Franklin jimfranklin@bix.com YYYY
joeshea@netcom.com Joe Shea YYYY
John@express.demon.co.uk John Honeywell YYYY
john@jlc.net John Leslie YNNN
JSCHATZ@delphi.com Jon Schatz YYYY
jwilloug@gate.net Jason Willoughby --Y-
jyoung@luna.cas.usf.edu Jonathan Young YYYY
karromde@nyx10.cs.du.edu Ken Arromdee -N--
KeithKubal@aol.com Keith Kubal YYYY
kerrinp@byron.apana.org.au Kerrin Pine YYYY
kieran@interport.net Aaron Dickey YYYY
kim@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn YYYN
kmccall@slonet.org Ken McCall YYYY
kyum@acs.ryerson.ca Kenny Yum YYYY
lantz@halcyon.com Lantz Rowland YYYY
lex@nr.infi.net Lex Alexander YYYY
list-votes@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schr\"oder YYYY
lorentz@uni-muenster.de Kai Lorentz YYYY
luke@smd.smd.sublink.ORG Luciano Mannucci YYYY
Lutz.Donnerhacke@Jena.Thur.De Lutz Donnerhacke YYYN
marc@ALGORITHMICS.COM Marc Moorcroft NNNN
marcyd@math.enmu.edu Darren Marcy YYYY
Marganne@aol.com Marganne Meyer YYYY
matrullo@netline.net Tom Matrullo NNYY
matthew@mattdl.demon.co.uk Matthew Doull YYYY
meyer@newslink.org Eric K. Meyer NNNN
Mikepsun@aol.com Mike Phillips -NYY
MLE4312@tntech.edu Margot Emery YNYY
mmt@RedBrick.COM M Mike Taksar ----
modemac@netcom.com Modemac YYYY
Morris@handscol.demon.co.uk Morris Price YYYY
moss@bastille.cchem.berkeley.edu Dave YYYY
msmccall@students.wisc.edu Mike McCallister YYYY
ndallen@io.org Nigel Allen YYYY
nick@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri NNNN
olaf@inka.de Olaf Titz YYY-
orc@pell.com david parsons YNYY
Peter.Gugerell@inmedias.ping.at Peter Gugerell YYYY
pjwoos@writer.planet.net Jeff Woosnam YYYY
plmad@primenet.com Paul L. Madarasz YYYY
popa0200@po-box.mcgill.ca Bart Beaty YYYY
ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien -N--
rab@hookup.net Aviva Rabinovici, rab@hookup.net ---Y
rballard@cnj.digex.net Rex Ballard YYYY
rew@CrystalData.COM Ryan Waldron NNNN
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller YNNN
rle@traveller.com Robert L. Edwards NNNN
rmw463@lulu.acns.nwu.edu Rebecca Winters NYNY
roberto@keltia.freenix.fr Ollivier Robert YYYY
roberts@startribune.com Robert Schafer YYY-
robin@DGS.dgsys.com Robin Netherton YYYY
ROGERS@cas.unt.edu James L. Rogers YYYY
rpl@ios.com Robert A. Little ---Y
rufinus@mbe.ece.wisc.edu Jeffrey Rufinus YYYY
rulrich@epix.net Roger M. Ulrich YNYY
RVEITCH@atc.gov.au Ross Veitch YYYY
sam@timeout.co.uk Sam Michel YYYY
sg3y+@andrew.cmu.edu Samuel Edward Greenfield YYYY
shecky@pipeline.com Richard Scheckman YYYY
Singlis@bcde.demon.co.uk Steven Inglis YNNY
smot0004@maroon.tc.umn.edu Robin Smothers YNNY
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown NNNN
stevey@startribune.com Steve Yelvington YYYY
stporter@iccu6.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au Steve Porter --YY
STYLEQUEEN@aol.com Karen M. Quist YYYY
tbas@sybase.com Tony Basoglu YYYY
techint@winternet.com Technical Intelligence-MN-USA NNYN
tgm@netcom.com Thomas G. McWilliams NNNN
tgromak@kilroy.id.net Tom Gromak Jr. YYYY
tomj@jac.enet.dec.com Tom Jaskiewicz NNNN
topnews@ix.netcom.com Howell Gatchell NNNY
tristan@dorsai.dorsai.org Tristan Louis YYYY
twpierce@midway.uchicago.edu Tim Pierce NNNY
uskes@mcl.ucsb.edu Shannon Smith YYYY
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius YNNY
WNEARY@delphi.com Walter Neary YYYY
x1berg@exnet.iastate.edu James Berg YYYY
Votes in error
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news@telegraph-nh.com David Brooks
! Invalid address
qpp1@iccu6.ipswichcity.qld.gov.au Steve Meyer
! No vote statement in message
sysop@skribenten.bbs.no Kristoffer Resellmo If you do not give a real name
! Invalid address
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